In this wide ranging conversation, Ruth and Monica zero in on the truth that we are all grappling with our shadows and it's time to open up and embrace the denied parts of ourselves, our societies, our world. How can we do this? Ruth points the way through with the planets, especially Pluto, Saturn, and Jupiter, and her metaphor for this unique time, "The Book of Uncertainty." Monica helps with herbal allies that can illuminate and soothe. And as always, when they get together, Ruth and Monica come back to love as the medicine that will get us through and heal ourselves, each other, and the earth.